Camera blurry, colors not as sharp

[spade1988]

Samsung Please update Camera Quality on s25 Series i have 25U an the photo Quality Sucks Bad photos Blurry unable to read Texts on photos wen u take pics of signs the reds greens aitn sharp bright as on s24U Smh Cmon 

[JourneysADRIFT]

This is factually wrong and has been studied and shown in plenty of tests. It's using AI to add detail to the image using training on countless images of the moon. It creates detail where there was none. It's not using multiple frames, it's not using super resolution to sharpen it. It's using a Neural Network to generate data based on training data of the moon. Now, to determine this, I did as you stated to do and I looked it up. I saw the testing. I read the data and methodologies used and came to the same conclusion as those who have tested this. Simple tests you can do at home even show it's using a NN to generate detail, such as taking photos of circles on sky backgrounds, or placing squares over an image of the moon and taking a photo of that photo and seeing the ai generate moon texture over the square, or the person who drew a smiley face onto a photo of a moon and then took a photo of it, and the AI incorporated the smiley face but as a moon texture. This is not simple photography tricks to create a good moon image, this is generating data where there was none using a Neural Network. Perhaps you have a slight misunderstanding of how it's achieving those results based on a misinterpretation of something you read in the past and need to also look it up again. Cheers

[AvidUser]

Bro, this only applies to the moon and the "AI" is what I mean by image optimization. All phones optimize the image, and yes the moon may be even more with AI, but its still the same moon. What difference does it make? It's still the dang moon, same moon phases, same colors, I took one white and orange, different phases, and its accurste to what it looks like in real life when it was blood moon, etc. It's not "fake" because fake implies its 100% fabrication the moon picture out of nothing but go ahead keep spweing hate when you literally have a samsung so idk why tf ur hating honestly

[JourneysADRIFT]

The difference is it's generating data using AI where there was none... That is fake. Do you consider AI generated images "real"? It's as though you didn't even read my comment, let alone any of the tests and studies done on the topic. It's not using AI super resolution. It's not using deconvolution. It's generating data using a Neural Network where there is no data in the image.

[AvidUser]

That is literally bs since the moon "is there" bro if your gonna spit something back it up because saying "its not there" is such bull because its not like im pointing my camera to a blank night sky tf

[Robin621k]

That was way more than I was willing to write, the moon shot is fake and a great parlor trick!

[JourneysADRIFT]

Yeah I'm not even saying it's a bad thing. It's a mix of real and fake generated data blended together in a tasteful way but I feel understanding how it creates the completed image is valuable. Some misunderstand these systems and the limitations of the optics and sensors of these phones. Still however, I love my phone and it takes nice pics for a cellphone regardless.

[Robin621k]

It begs for the question, what is a real photo now? Everything now is computational photography, even professional photographers who shoot in raw and do all the magic in post. It's everywhere now.

[Robin621k]

Every picture our phones take are technically fake, it is computational photography done with algorithms to make everyone to be able to point and shoot and get pleasing photos.

So, no, that moon shot is done by a computer filling in what should be there.

[AvidUser]

But it is there, that moon is there and its the correct phases, color, how it looks in real life, and it doesn't do this with a small speck of light that many apple users claim that any white sphere bright object will "transform" into a moon and it's proven wrong. But yes, all phones are computational photography

[JourneysADRIFT]

The "moon" is there. Yes. But your camera is not resolving it in those situations, not in that detail, not in that clarity, the information is not there. The AI knows it's supposed to be a moon, such as generating moon textures over shapes placed over images of a moon, it uses a Neural Network trained on images of the moon to generate a moon image where it knows it's supposed to be.

This is no different than using AI to generate an image of a rabbit into a photo vs actually taking a photo of a rabbit. Yes the moon is "there" but what you're seeing in the end result is generated data that did not exist, not optimized data that did exist.

If you wish to not look it up, read the testing methodologies, see the tests and results yourself and instead make dead end arguments based on misunderstandings then I'll just let ya be. Cheers.