Oven: cook time starts as soon as oven starts, before preheat

[Steve Ricketts]

I have a NSI6DG9100SRAA oven and when you begin to bake, you set the (1) bake mode, (2) temperature, (3) timer, and then Ok to start.  However, the timer starts immediately, specifically before the oven is preheated to the target temperature. 

This is also true of the app. I can set the mode, time, and temperature on the app and send it to the oven.  Same thing... the timer starts immediately.  This effectively makes the timer useless. What is the point of setting the timer at the beginning of the bake cycle??

Why doesn't the timer start either (1) when it reaches the target temperature or (2) when the oven door is opened to insert the food?

[ILoveGabcom]

Traditionally, you put the food in after the oven is preheated, not before. That's when you would normally set the timer.

[realaud]

The reason that people with programmable ovens set the timer when setting the temp, is because setting the timer on those ovens turns off the oven after the cook cycle is done. Setting the timer separately only sets the timer, not the automatic off.

[ILoveGabcom]

I think you replied to my comment in error 😊.
Nevertheless, I don't have a Samsung oven. I have a 17-year old GE wall oven. Even that, however, has separate "Timer" and "Cook Time" buttons. The Timer beeps but leaves the oven on, but Cook Time turns the oven off. I would think that the newer ovens would at least have both options also, no?

[realaud]

No, I specifically replied to you explaining why people set the timers while setting the temp, rather than waiting for the preheat cycle to end. More expensive and sophisticated units keep the preheat cycle separate from the cooking time and the timer won't actually start its countdown until the preheat cycle has ended. Many people like it when the oven goes off when the cooking cycle is over to prevent overcooking if they get sidetracked.  I don't because I don't want to have to bother turning it back on again if it needs more time.  However, especially with electric ovens, the residual heat finishes the cooking process even with the oven turned off.  I, too, have a GE range/oven with the same type of setup as the OP - set the cooking temp/time then wait for the pre-heat cycle to end.  Mine counts down from the start of the preheat cycle.  If one sets this timer, it also is the timer to let you know when your cooking cycle is ended.  However, one can wait and set the timer when you actually put the food in the oven, but this will not turn off the oven - only alert you when your food is done.  The times I want to oven to actually turn off after the cooking cycle, I just add 10 minutes to the timer and don't actually put my food in until the "temp reached" beep goes off.

[realaud]

I don't have a Samsung oven, but this has always been the behavior of ovens I have had that are programmable that way.  I either just add 10 minutes or so to the timer, or set the timer once the target temperature has been reached.  It's not a hardship either way.  Most times I just use an external timer anyway, because I do not necessarily want my oven to turn off when the cooking period is over, in case it needs more time.

[OldLadyWho2]

I have the 9500 and it's the same. I don't think whomever designed half of the options knows diddly squat about cooking! If you turned on the light to take a peek during the cooking and forget to turn it off, it stays on after you turn the oven off and you have to tap the oven 'button' to get the light to display so you can tap it off, then tap the oven 'button' again. I could go on, but it would just exhaust me. Never buying another Samsung appliance again.

[realaud]

FWIW, the light was always separate from cooking controls on any oven of any brand. You always had to turn the light on and off manually.  Perhaps some premium brands/models have the light going on and off with the cooking cycle, but I've never seen it.  Most likely because most people do not need to have the light on during a while cooking cycle, but will turn it on when necessary.  This is why oven bulbs practically last forever.  But, I agree, there should be a separate timer for the pre-heat cycle and the cooking cycle - like my convection microwave.  When I use the convection feature and set the cook time, a timer counts down for the pre-heat cycle then it beeps to add the food, and the timer then restarts for the cook time.

Since I don't need or want the oven to turn off after the cooking cycle, I just set the timer separately.  If I do want that feature, I just add 10-15 minutes to the cook timer.

[OldLadyWho2]

I agree that the light has always been separate, but I never had to turn the oven on to turn it off or on. With the Samsung, the oven control unit must be on to operate the light icon. The oven itself doesn't have to be on, but you must have the oven ' on just to have icons back lit and operable. My old GE had each function (timer, clock, light, oven on/off) usable by itself.