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Battery regulation in US!

(Topic created: 07-13-2025 06:34 PM)
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Robin621k
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For those that complain all the time about the lack of LARGE LITHIUM batteries in our phones in the US, this is for you !

There are rules in this country about how many watt hours and the capacity of the mAh limit that batteries can have to be transported from overseas into this country without them changing the classification to what is called dangerous goods. Dangerous goods significantly incur larger shipping fees to be brought into the US, and transported throughout the US.

In the US single cell lithium batteries are capped at just under 5200 mAh, and has to be under 20 Watt hours ( how much power a battery used in 1 hour) Samsung's 5000 mAh battery is rated at 19.85 Watt hours just a hair under the limit. All lithium batteries in cell phones have to be submitted to the FCC for testing for rating (publicly available, it's how leakers get their info on upcoming phone releases)

Write to your US rep to have the antiquated regulations revised for modern tech and improved safety of newer lithium batteries.

Please don't came back with, but, One+13 has a 6000 mAh battery, it doesn't it is dual cell . It has 2 3000 mAh batteries so it could be sold in the US and EU. The EU it is capped at 5600 mAh ( couldn't find info on Watt Hours) Edit: One Plus uses Silicon Carbon batteries!

BTW, Samsung's 5000 mAh has been rated for 2000 charging cycles before the battery health will reach 80%. Those new 6000 mAh batteries that TechTubers have been raving about, they have been rated for 1500 charging cycles before reaching 80 battery health due to faster charging rates. 

Ps, another tidbit.
Before you ask then why doesn't Samsung just put a 5200 mAh battery in the Ultra. Good question, during the manufacturing of lithium ion batteries mAh can fluctuate between each battery produced, this is why in the battery section of about phone it will say typical, 5000 mAh, it could be as much as 150mAh higher or lower. Samsung has to insure that it doesn't go over 5200 mAh.
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meself
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Exactly if its over the 4 number can deal with
Mogay
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personally i don't see Samsung will increase battery capacity anytime soon even there's new cap on US regulation. Samsung is focusing make their smartphone thinner

Tom6068
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And the US is falling behind in using silicon carbon batteries which are denser, meaning they can hold more energy, charge faster and are thinner, hence why thinner phones are being made outside of the US. That has allowed for larger hardware (looking at you Samsung) camera hardware and camera hardware systems, better connectivity hardware and even thinner phones. Internal real estate for hardware is measured down to less than a millimeter for engineering and placement and l-ion batteries are anathema to saving space.

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SiC batteries degrade ~40% faster, costs more, has worse heat dissapation, are rated for around half the recharge cycles, and can in experience up to 30% greater thermal expansion over li-ion. Go look at the OP13 forums and see how many people are complaining about battery life. SiC batteries are pure hype from Chinese brands that give **bleep** about what happens to the customer post sale.

Tom6068
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Sources?
Robin621k
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The EU, they take battery life very session over there.
Robin621k
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TechTubers never do their homework!
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Tom6068
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??? Also, why does your profile status display "Writer"? 1752506259790.jpg
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It's my post!