Sleep timing causing inaccurate energy score

[Angiepangielou]

I am very confused about the sleep timing  for the energy score on the watch app. According to this, the ideal time to go to sleep is between 11pm and 2am. I wake up at 5:30am, so if I went to sleep between those times, I would be a walking zombie the next day. It doesn't make any sense at all. It's bringing my scores down and basically making me feel like I'm doing something wrong. Then in the sleep section, it recommends getting 7-9 hours of sleep per night. So these two things are conflicting. Please change this Samsung. No one should be going to sleep between 11pm and 2am on a working week night when they need to wake up early. That is unhealthy. 

 

[GDH13]

I wake up at 4 AM every morning so if I went to bed at 11 I would never meet a target goal of 7 hours this is ridiculous it should not be according to what 20-year-olds who do not work are sleeping it should be according to each individual's need.  It is absolutely no use to anyone and it will never be accurate if it cannot adjust to individual's need

[realaud]

The energy score is a parlor game and based on absolutely no science.  The only thing that matters with sleep tracking is the vitals it records.  You should know your own energy level without some arbitrary number telling you how you *should* feel.  The energy score does not take into account any factors about your general health such as chronic illness, pain, etc.  Just hide the energy score tile from your home page and you don't have to worry about the discrepancies.  Samsung will never be able to make it accurate.   Your circadian rhythm is yours and mine is mine.  Samsung health takes a statistical average of sleep cycles that was established in the days before electricity.  One woke at sunrise and went to bed at sunset or when they were tired. Modern science has somehow decided that 7 hours is optimal, but the fact of the matter is, many people do not need/are incapable of 7 hours of sleep. Candlelight, gaslights, electric lights were utilized by these people.

[Deepdiver47]

So a company like Samsung should be fixing the issue, they have the resources and offer it as a product, it should be right. 

[realaud]

They are programmers, not sleep scientists. There is no validity whatsoever to either the sleep score or the energy score, as both leave out critical measurement factors. I still cannot believe anyone takes them seriously, let alone relies on them.

[Lurg1975]

Same problem here. I wake at 4 AM every day, so my bed time is 8 pm. It makes no sense that it's gauging my sleep and wake time vs the average person who goes to bed and wakes up much later than I.

[realaud]

Did you set your sleep target with your sleep schedule? If you don't set your sleep range, your scores won't be accurate.

[Members_OsYRxmy]

How about fixing this problem. Many have different hours than 11-2. Please allow for a more accurate range to be used for people who do not like your hours. In US many wake much earlier and need to go to bed earlier. 

[realaud]

You can set your own target range.  Your score will be calculated on whether you meet your target, along with all the other factors.  If you keep the target as the default, your values will be off.  There actually is no problem if your settings are correct. IMO, the problem, as you perceive it, would be to just eliminate the energy score altogether, as it is a completely bogus and meaningless measurement and people shouldn't take it seriously.  Your only measurement of energy, should be how you feel.

Even if they were basing it on the average person's rhythms, it would still be considered correct.  In measurements such as these, you can't expect personalized results.

[Members_g8zrIO2]

Yes, the energy score always tells me to do the same thing exactly that I did the day before. It want consistency, regardless of the facts. So if I was a total couch potato,, it would tell me to keep  up the good work.  "Energy Score" seems to be an effort to make the software appear more robust, while hoping nobody really reads it, which is probably actually true.

[MerryC]

Since the last phone system upgrade I have been getting sleep scores in the 30's and 20s.

It often misses 1 to 2 or more hours of sleep with a big gap and I am reasonably certain I didn't die for that period of time.

If I had that little sleep I would not be able to function