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(Topic created: 06-09-2025 07:23 PM)
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Is there a setting to the camera on the Samsung Galaxy s25 Ultra to improve the blurriness of pictures when they are of pictures when they are taken?
I don't want to fix them after I take them. Because it should not be happening while I'm taking the photos. Especially how Samsung advertised the camera and Video capabilities of the S25 Ultra. 
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Have you tried Samsung camera assistant app?

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maird
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That's going to depend a lot on which of the cameras you use, what you are photographing and the available light. I would rarely use the high zoom picture within a frame mode, it has it's uses but handholding a camera at 100x zoom will have a lot of shake, it needs a tripod and mount which I have. However, I regularly manage to get nice mountainside shots at 2.5 miles range using 10x zoom and, I believe the 50MP camera where you can see relief and some structure on exposed rock, the plants are largely a varying shade of green for each type but I can see individual fallen trees at 2.5 miles. I often get nice balanced sky shots with nice detail of cumulus clouds forming as the air rises against the mountains, again 50MP camera at 10x zoom. All frames are downsampled to 12MP and that might cause problems like you describe. AFIK, you can't really capture 200MP frames from the 200MP camera. The best quality frames will usually be RAW format images using the EXPERT RAW mode, but it can be a chore to use if you are not familiar with the features and by default you get two frames, the RAW image and a lower quality compressed jpeg. The RAW frame is usually better quality. A lot of what it takes to get good results are common photography skills and you are probably going to have to learn about the effect of things like shutter speed, aperture, depth of field, field of view, balancing the subject versus the scene and more. It's well worth learning because the S25 Ultra camera has been good for some of my uses. It looks like my attachments probably didn't get uploaded There was a picture with the building it's about a quarter mile away and you can see the gaps between the blocks of the wall in front but the most distant ridge is about 2 miles away with individual trees visible. There was one of cumulus cloud forming with nice detail in the cloud. It shows the same ridge, both were actually taken through home windows. There was one of a cloudy mountainside that was taken outside. If the resolution was preserved I think it's the only raw frame and you can see relief and structure on the exposed rock plus individual fallen trees in the canyon at over 2 miles distance. None have been adjusted after they were taken.lQXWKAdRuN.jpgbyNT0Zt76l.jpgxv0xWoPBxp.jpg
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200MP settings, even 100MP  are pure marketing. They cannot produce actual images with that end result resolution. It is matter of physical limitations to the hardware which cannot exist in a  smartphone that is less than a 1/2' thick.  50MP is the sweet spot and that should be used for all camera lenses. If someone truly wants those kinds of image taking with true to number pixel/MB sizes, one can buy a very good Nikon for example, for 1/3 the price and get absolutely full RAW images and not the pixel binned ones.

 

Smartphones already use pixel binning in their overall image taking and for the most part in RAW image taking. Not only that, in the US people are stuck using inferior physical hardware (except the CPU)  for cameras, like actual 1" pixel sensors do not exist in US available smartphone, while China  ha five manufacturers that actually use that physical size. Why? Because the US stifles competition while Samsung and Apple has over 90% of the US smartphone market, so there is little incentive for them to ramp up far better hardware as much as keep upselling 200MP as useless as it is because it still bins the final image to 12MP using software shenanigans to improve the look.

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Quite correct, it's why I also have a Canon mirrorless 30.6MP camera with lenses covering 24mm to 1600mm focal length, a static and EQ mount tripod, a Canon point and shoot camera and three drones with different resolution and focal lengths. I've twice been able to photograph Saturn showing the rings using the mirrorless and 1600mm lens plus once photograph Mars with visible surface detail using the same camera and lens on the EQ mount. However, that's too much to carry around everywhere I go and the S25U frequently takes pictures that rival what I could do with my other cameras. Someone that wants to get the best from any camera should learn to be a photographer and be the artist they want to be rather than let the camera direct or limit them. It's the same skill and art with a S25U as it is with pro gear. I also agree that the better S25U camera tends to be the 50MP, the FOV on the wide/ultra-wide leaves little detail at any distance and the longest focal length has a 12MP sensor anyway IIRC. It is possible to explore the art of photography with the S25U cameras, if you do understand enough of photography and your artistic goals.
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Tom6068
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Can you list the actual model of that 1600mm lens that work with the cameras and post those shots here?

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maird
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It's hard to post the Mars pictures because they don't appear in the available pictures to attach even though they appear in the Photos app, putting them in an album doesn't help and drag and drop isn't supported. I'll work it out and post another reply but here are two Saturn pictures, the sun (through a proper solar filter) showing sunspots and Jupiter with all four Magellanic moons visible. The lens is a Canon RF800mm/F11 with a 2x teleconverter, so a 1600mm/F22 with 32x magnification but very low light. The biggest trouble shooting with my Canon EOS-R is that the planets are less than 1% of the frame so metering is useless and I have to guess exposures. Only the sun is properly exposed because it's full frame but all the planets are over exposed, though for the Jupiter shot, with care you can see the shadow on the left indicating they are lit from the right (whch was the case when the picture was taken). All of these were on a static tripod, Saturn on my EQ mount should be possible later this year. Most planet pictures are over-exposed because I have to guess the exposure and the Mars ones when I attach them are severely over-exposed giving the planet a halo, but the contrast on them has the same shape as the contrast on a high resolution picture of Mars. I'll try to work out how to make them part of the pictures the Samsung M app will allow me to select.L6XE989RKF.jpgXeWgR1wGl5.jpgbYTMOZm8RR.jpgMDE9RXLJId.jpg
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Here are two Mars shots, an original frame and a five frame stack with the dynamic range compressed at the dark end to remove the halo. Remember I know they are over-exposed but the contrast on the disk is the same shape as contrast on much better frames of Mars and doesn't change shape across 80 frames covering two hours of shooting so I'm confident it is surface relief. I expect to get better at judging exposure on my EQ mount with more use. These were my first shots using it. Canon EOR-R + RF800mm/F11 with a 2x teleconverter.SYh96GRKN3.png3QSERpC8jD.png
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