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3x lens quality is bad

(Topic created: 07-22-2025 12:14 AM)
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S24Uuser
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Sure its better than 1x crop to 3x. But lets be honest. Its quality is really  bad

 
Just look how far i could zoom into a RAW image from my 5x lens vs a RAW image from my 3x. Results speak for themself. Samsung, Do us a favor. Upgrade the 3x.
(Yes, this is a community thing and they wont see this. Just looking for a little bit of validation ig.
 
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Mogay
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i wish there's a day that every camera lens has 200MP: selfie, wide, ultrawide, and telephoto camera

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S24Uuser
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Honestly im perfectly happy with every camera being 50mp. But i wish every sensor were large. The only think holding the 3x back is that its a tiny sensor compared to everything else. Simply make it a 1/2.5 instead of a 1/3.5 and the improvements will come out immediately
betancd
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Yeah I'm not a fan, Samsung should just drop it. My S25 Edge gives me better output in 200mp mode than my 3x on my S25 Ultra
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S24Uuser
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Yeah honestly i kind of agree but when it comes to it. Its not even the pixel count that hold this sensor back so much. Its the sensor size. Sure 50mp would be nice, but in reality? Anything over 24 in a sensor this small really doesnt do much of anything. Just wish the sensor was bigger and the impact of quality would be huge
betancd
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I have an old Sony Cybershot DSC-H5 7.2mp digital camera I found lying around a while back. I would argue it still takes much nicer photos than many phones still. Phones have it beat with HDR but the photos are so clean looking on that low resolution camera with great detail.
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maird
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The trouble with a bigger sensor is that you need a larger projected image area from the lens which usually means a longer distance between the last lens element and the sensor. Until we all agree to 4 inch thick phones in our pockets that won't happen without new invention.

Assuming the OP is about the Super telephoto lens, I understand it's a 67mm equivalent lens with a 12MP sensor and 1x to 3x optical zoom, which makes the 1x detail on the other telephoto 111mm equivalent but 50MP sensor seem to have better detail across the entire optical zoom range of the 67mm onto 12MP. Then, if the 12MP sensor really is smaller physically than the 50MP one there's probably only three starting points to use with the back cameras. The ultra-wide at 0.6x magnification, for truly wide angle scenes, 50MP images and do your own crop not via zoom. Treat the wide-angle 200MP (24mm equivlent) instead as-if a 50mm standard lens on a SLR type camera, get the image stabilization and only ever use 1x zoom to get the largest image size then do your own cropping rather than using zoom. That should be pretty good when quite close to a subject. Treat the 50MP telephoto (111mm effective) as a 1x to 5x only zoom only (the optical zoom range of it as I understand) and do your own cropping of the larger frames. Use the 12MP to play with but probably with limited expectations. Obviously, everyone's scene is different so those aren't a "best" way to use the back cameras and this might be better considered as starting approach for reasonable expectations in results. In effect you will often get more from higher pixel count and your own cropping than trying to put anything back into the often 4k squeezed (12MP) frame results from higher than optical zoom shooting which makes all the other cameras potentially better than the 12MP one. Though individual cases will, of course, vary.
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S24Uuser
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I use an S24 Ultra
1x(200mp 24mm)
3x(10mp 69mm)
5x(50 115mm)
I shoot RAW via the Expert Raw app. I shoot 24MP natively.
Ofc the 69mm isnt 24mp. Its only 10. Not only is it the smalled in resolution. Its the smallest sensor.
We dont meed think phones. Just bigger camera modules. If they can make the 1x, 5x, and now for the 25... 0.6x sensor bigger and higher res. Then they shouldn't find trouble doing the same. Its not as complicated as you make is seem.
Also yes. I only shoot in 1x, 2x, 3x and 5x, without zoom besides the 1x? Why? Because its easier to see my image while taking the pic and its also easier for my focus to work on where i need it to go. Also, its less total pixels it has to refine.
Realistically Samsung needs a new camera layout. Maybe they should consider following in the circle camera designs or take a hint from google with the flat pill🤷‍♂️

And just as an extra. The crop on that cobra pic was very miniscule. Shaved about 1.5/10 off leaving me an 8.5mp image at the end. Still. The quality. Its absolutely not where it should be

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